<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think we can make this work with ordinary make using vpath. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">It's not a huge priority now. I may try to work on it after getting some other more important work done, like my example code(s).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">See you tomorrow.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">George</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>George K. Thiruvathukal, PhD<br></div><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><i style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">Professor of Computer Science</i><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">, Loyola University Chicago</span><br></div><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><i>Director</i>, Center for Textual Studies and Digital Humanities</span></div><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><i>Guest Faculty</i>, Argonne National Laboratory, Math and Computer Science Division</span></div><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><div style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">Editor in Chief, <a href="http://www.computer.org/portal/web/computingnow/cise" target="_blank">Computing in Science and Engineering</a> (IEEE CS/AIP)<br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">(w) <a href="http://gkt.tv/" target="_blank">gkt.tv</a> </span><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px">(v) 773.829.4872</span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.7272720336914px"><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Boisvert, Sebastien <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:boisvert@anl.gov" target="_blank">boisvert@anl.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> From: George K. Thiruvathukal [<a href="mailto:gkt@cs.luc.edu">gkt@cs.luc.edu</a>]<br>
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<span class="">> To: Boisvert, Sebastien<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:biosal@lists.cels.anl.gov">biosal@lists.cels.anl.gov</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [BIOSAL] Minimal build of thorium actor applications<br>
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</span><span class="">> There's one other thing I wanted to put on our radar.<br>
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> While working with Eclipse CDT (and other IDEs), it is becoming apparent that having the build objects appear in the same folders as the source is a bit less than desirable. Most C/C++ projects tend to overcome this by having a separate build folder. We should<br>
> try try to build to an external directory, e.g. build/<target>, where <target> is a configuration, and "build" is a peer directory of "src". (We presently don't have an src subdirectory, but this is ok.) This would allow us to keep the .o/.obj files out of<br>
> the project view when inside of an IDE. As I'm sure you know, it also makes for an easier "clean" rule (rm -rf build/<target>).<br>
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> Again, none of what I'm writing is a bug per se. It's just that I'd like to find a way to make it better for different ways of using the source code (or development workflows, as I like to call them).<br>
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> It seems like the current Makefile structure lends itself to doing this change, since you are building up a list of files and then compiling all of them (presumably from the top level). But I might be missing something.<br>
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</span>Yes. The top level makefile controls everything.<br>
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autoconf or cmake would make it possible to do what you are saying.<br>
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I don't know if make can achieve that.<br>
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> Anyway, I'll discuss this with you tomorrow, among other topics we have on our regular agenda. I can make an issue in our GitHub tracker for this, but I thought it would be good to discuss this first. We do have other priorities, so this is not urgent but one<br>
> of those things that would put us on par with toolkits like MPICH, Globus, etc.<br>
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> Guest Faculty, Argonne National Laboratory, Math and Computer Science Division<br>
> Editor in Chief, Computing in<br>
> Science and Engineering (IEEE CS/AIP)<br>
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> (w) <a href="http://gkt.tv" target="_blank">gkt.tv</a> (v)<br>
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> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Boisvert, Sebastien<br>
> <<a href="mailto:boisvert@anl.gov">boisvert@anl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Great !<br>
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> > From: George K. Thiruvathukal [<a href="mailto:gkt@cs.luc.edu">gkt@cs.luc.edu</a>]<br>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 4:38 PM<br>
> > To: Boisvert, Sebastien<br>
> > Cc:<br>
> <a href="mailto:biosal@lists.cels.anl.gov">biosal@lists.cels.anl.gov</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [BIOSAL] Minimal build of thorium actor applications<br>
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> > Seb,<br>
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> > Just letting you know, everything is working! This is going to be really helpful for me (and, I hope, others).<br>
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> > Best,<br>
> > George<br>
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> > George K. Thiruvathukal, PhD<br>
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> > Professor of Computer Science, Loyola University Chicago<br>
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> > Director, Center for Textual Studies and Digital Humanities<br>
> > Guest Faculty, Argonne National Laboratory, Math and Computer Science Division<br>
> > Editor in Chief, Computing in<br>
> > Science and Engineering (IEEE CS/AIP)<br>
> ><br>
> > (w)<br>
> <a href="http://gkt.tv" target="_blank">gkt.tv</a> (v)<br>
> > 773.829.4872<br>
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> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Boisvert, Sebastien<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:boisvert@anl.gov">boisvert@anl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > Yes<br>
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> > Option list:<br>
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> <a href="https://github.com/sebhtml/biosal/blob/master/Documentation/Compilation_Options.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/sebhtml/biosal/blob/master/Documentation/Compilation_Options.md</a><br>
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> > You probably want to use something like this:<br>
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> > make -j CONFIG_MPI=n CC=cc<br>
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> > > From: George K. Thiruvathukal [<a href="mailto:gkt@cs.luc.edu">gkt@cs.luc.edu</a>]<br>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:45 PM<br>
> > > To: Boisvert, Sebastien<br>
> > > Cc:<br>
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> <a href="mailto:biosal@lists.cels.anl.gov">biosal@lists.cels.anl.gov</a><br>
> > > Subject: Re: [BIOSAL] Minimal build of thorium actor applications<br>
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> > > Hi Seb,<br>
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> > > This is fantastic news! If I pull from upstream (sebhtml/master), will I pick this up?<br>
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> > > George<br>
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> > > George K. Thiruvathukal, PhD<br>
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> > > Professor of Computer Science, Loyola University Chicago<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Director, Center for Textual Studies and Digital Humanities<br>
> > > Guest Faculty, Argonne National Laboratory, Math and Computer Science Division<br>
> > > Editor in Chief, Computing in<br>
> > > Science and Engineering (IEEE CS/AIP)<br>
> > ><br>
> > > (w)<br>
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> <a href="http://gkt.tv" target="_blank">gkt.tv</a> (v)<br>
> > > 773.829.4872<br>
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> > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Boisvert, Sebastien<br>
> > > <<a href="mailto:boisvert@anl.gov">boisvert@anl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > > Following George's request, I added some options to do minimal builds:<br>
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> > > "-lrt" is no longer needed, there is a fallback path with gettimeofday.<br>
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> > > For MPI, I had to add "mock_transport" which only sets the rank to 0 and the size to 1.<br>
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> > > The new minimal build only needs libm, libc, and libpthread.<br>
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> > > linux-vdso and ld-linux-x86-64 are specific to the Linux operating system<br>
> > > and/or to the architecture. vdso (vsyscall) is used to invoke some system<br>
> > > calls directly from userspace for better performance. ld-linux is used<br>
> > > to load shared libraries.<br>
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> > > $ make -j CONFIG_CLOCK_GETTIME=n CONFIG_MPI=n CONFIG_ZLIB=n CC=cc<br>
> > > $ ldd performance/latency_probe/latency_probe<br>
> > > linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffc7bff000)<br>
> > > libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x0000003f19a00000)<br>
> > > libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x0000003f1a200000)<br>
> > > libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x0000003f19600000)<br>
> > > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000003f19200000)<br>
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> > > That should be easier like this to build on POWER7 or on k1om (or in Eclipse).<br>
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> > > George:<br>
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> > > You will need to add the makefile options CONFIG_CLOCK_GETTIME=n CONFIG_MPI=n CONFIG_ZLIB=n CC=cc<br>
> > > in Eclipse I think.<br>
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